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Anyone fished the rivers much for carp. I am thinking more along the lines of The Thames and larger rivers. I know locations like Sonning and Kingston Bridge are all top secret (yawn) so this is not about location as I have my own. It is more about how you would go about it. I am sure some people here have had some success so what worked for you?

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I'll tell you in june :wink: it can't go much worse than my lake fishing at the moment lol

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Anyone fished the rivers much for carp. I am thinking more along the lines of The Thames and larger rivers. I know locations like Sonning and Kingston Bridge are all top secret (yawn) so this is not about location as I have my own. It is more about how you would go about it. I am sure some people here have had some success so what worked for you?


Can you be more specific? I could write a book to answer your question... :o
What would you like to know? Are you uncertain about something?

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pre bait pre bait pre bait pre bait and after that do a bit more pre baiting.

river carp can roam for miles in a day so you want to get them used to a certain spot where they will know foods availble. rigs dont need to be that clever just simple and strong as they fight like stink, a lot lot harder then your still water carp.

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You should no better, a river carper is going to be about 5000 times more less likley to give you even a hint of were the fish are, I have fished the Thames for over 10 years and know of a lot of free spots, but you try and get help from these guy's.

Mind you depending on the weather I might know where they shole up before spawning, I am not kidding.

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pre bait pre bait pre bait pre bait and after that do a bit more pre baiting.


Definitely the key to success!

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I am lucky, I have access to an area of the Thames on private land, I see the fish group up and spawn every year - I have never tried to catch them before but interestingly a lot of them are mirrors. Some BIG long carp there too - in fact an awful lot of carp group up in this creek, clearly there are loads of carp in the river Thames but they must be tricky to catch as even drifting near them in silent dinghy spooks them off. I also happen to know that a lot were put in this particular stretch 16 years ago at about 8lb so they should be good fish now 8)

Pre-baiting advice is great, thanks. I will start doing it in the next few weeks to get ready for the big day :D Slight problem is there are TONS of BIG bream as well but I guess there is not much I can do about that.

Simple rigs - cheers, suits me :lol:

So how much bait do you reckon? 5 Kilos a week in the same spot be enough? I was planning to use hemp and big boilies, nothing else really. Hemp to draw them in and the monster boilies so the roach etc.. cannot eat them all!

Sound like a good plan or very flawed? Cheers in advance!

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I would just use large boilies. Hemp will draw the bream like wasps round a jamjar!

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I am lucky, I have access to an area of the Thames on private land, I see the fish group up and spawn every year - I have never tried to catch them before but interestingly a lot of them are mirrors. Some BIG long carp there too - in fact an awful lot of carp group up in this creek, clearly there are loads of carp in the river Thames but they must be tricky to catch as even drifting near them in silent dinghy spooks them off. I also happen to know that a lot were put in this particular stretch 16 years ago at about 8lb so they should be good fish now 8)

Pre-baiting advice is great, thanks. I will start doing it in the next few weeks to get ready for the big day :D Slight problem is there are TONS of BIG bream as well but I guess there is not much I can do about that.

Simple rigs - cheers, suits me :lol:

So how much bait do you reckon? 5 Kilos a week in the same spot be enough? I was planning to use hemp and big boilies, nothing else really. Hemp to draw them in and the monster boilies so the roach etc.. cannot eat them all!

Sound like a good plan or very flawed? Cheers in advance!


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pre bait pre bait pre bait pre bait and after that do a bit more pre baiting.


Definitely the key to success!

Thats where i'm going wrong then :roll: :lol: :lol:
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I am lucky, I have access to an area of the Thames on private land,


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Normally yes, in this case probably not allowed one except the missus - sorry!

Good point about the hemp and bream Alan, thanks. Any ideas what you would use if you had this predicament? Just boilies on the river - I am not sure they will work on their own. Maybe giant halibut pellets, the proper gobstopper ones alongside boilies?????

Any ideas???

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I am lucky, I have access to an area of the Thames on private land,


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Normally yes, in this case probably not allowed one except the missus - sorry!

Good point about the hemp and bream Alan, thanks. Any ideas what you would use if you had this predicament? Just boilies on the river - I am not sure they will work on their own. Maybe giant halibut pellets, the proper gobstopper ones alongside boilies?????

Any ideas???


I know that on a number of stretches of the Thames that Large Boilies are baited on there own, as the Chub, Barbel, Bream etc (and Crays) will really get into Particles and pellets.
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Sounds to me like a job for the good old Maize :wink:
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I am lucky, I have access to an area of the Thames on private land,


room for a guest????


Normally yes, in this case probably not allowed one except the missus - sorry!

Good point about the hemp and bream Alan, thanks. Any ideas what you would use if you had this predicament? Just boilies on the river - I am not sure they will work on their own. Maybe giant halibut pellets, the proper gobstopper ones alongside boilies?????

Any ideas???


I know that on a number of stretches of the Thames that Large Boilies are baited on there own, as the Chub, Barbel, Bream etc (and Crays) will really get into Particles and pellets.


Yes Nick, I think that's right. Any good quality food source boilie should do the trick.

I suppose donkey-choker halibut pellets would work but don't barbel and chub love 'em?

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Sounds to me like a job for the good old Maize :wink:


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Yes....my thoughts too - hemp/maize - same problem really. The bream are big, not skimmers. Great if you like bream - not so good for this problem.

I guess I am just a bit concerned about wasting lots of time pre-baiting with boilies if the carp don't recognise them as food or don't want to get on them. These carp will not have seen boilies, that I can be sure of in this location.

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Yes....my thoughts too - hemp/maize - same problem really. The bream are big, not skimmers. Great if you like bream - not so good for this problem.

I guess I am just a bit concerned about wasting lots of time pre-baiting with boilies if the carp don't recognise them as food or don't want to get on them. These carp will not have seen boilies, that I can be sure of in this location.
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you say you are fishing the thames right? so im sure these fish will have seen boilies before. correct me if im wrong please :)

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Yes....my thoughts too - hemp/maize - same problem really. The bream are big, not skimmers. Great if you like bream - not so good for this problem.

I guess I am just a bit concerned about wasting lots of time pre-baiting with boilies if the carp don't recognise them as food or don't want to get on them. These carp will not have seen boilies, that I can be sure of in this location.

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It's a natural concern, but if you think about how a carp feeds (sucks things in off the bottom, swallows what it likes and ejects what it doesn't) then you can be fairly sure that they'll recognise a good food source when they come across it.

Another thought just occurred - are there any places you can bait up where you can see your freebies and whether or not they are being eaten?

On crappercarper's point - are barbel fished for in the places you are targetting, because many barbel anglers also use boilies?

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This stretch of the river is almost entirely residential, in a way its actually pretty virgin in terms of carp fishing. Very few people who live on the Thames actually fish believe it or not, some do obviously but these are rarely fishing it for carp. Well I have not seen one on this stretch in the past 20 years anyway!

The river dips to 18 foot deep on this stretch - thats very deep for the Thames, this is not a tidal stretch. (Been up and down with a depthfinder/fishfinder many many many times...)

I used to think the BIG fish on the screen were big pike but as I got older I began to realise they MIGHT be but then again...

No I cannot envisage a way of waiting for them to come over the bait to see their reaction [you would need the patience of a saint and then some] - I dont even know where I am going to put it exactly but those kinds of problems I can figure out. The weed growth changes every year but thats ok, I can work that out.

I know its a bit hit and miss on the river but I reckon it is possible to form a sensible strategy with the time remaining until they are open again. At least i know the carp are definately around.

I can bait up and revisit the spot but it that a guarantee its the carp that have had it away - there are record everythings in the Thames so who knows what could have munched it - I gues if something has that would be a good start...still thinking :lol:

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its a tricky one but a nice predicament to be in. good luck in your quest and i hope you catch a record.

out of interest, have you had any decent sized perch from there?




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