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  1. Well, I've been looking at carp in a new light since there is an overwhelming love of them in different countries. I'm wondering just how much of the animosity to carp in Australia is misplaced.

    Some of the naturalist fishermen that I respect, I'm now asking their opinions about it all and it is proving educational.

    There are a few fishermen in the Department of Forestry and Fisheries that I'm talking to that don't share the standard Australian opinions and there are some environmental conservation companies that my ex girlfriend used to work for that have done some surveys in this sort of thing. They might not be interested in talking about their data as it's been paid for by companies that legally have to do this sort of investigation due to the legislation in Australia, but it's possible that they will offer some supporting evidence that mitigates calls for their destruction to the general population.

     

    But as such, if you feel the need to withhold your knowledge, that's your choice.

  2. Being not quite the full moon, but close enough to it, my standard carping companion and I hit the lake today to see what having something like a plan would do for our success rates.

     

    Upon arrival we spooled up the feature finding rod with some yellow braid and then spent some time trying to figure out why the lake appeared significantly shallower than I knew it to be. Other than the realisation that it was the wrong fifty percent of the chances of rigging a float and sinker correctly, we then had to try and overcome the tendency of the jury rigged sinker of twisting the braid. Once that was overcome by letting it sit down onto the float swivel, things went a little more smoothly.

     

    By absolute luck, my fishing buddy had bought the 10 foot general purpose rod from Kmart that I thought might work well as a cheap spodding rod. With some very thin 50lb braid on it and the marker float showing a break in the weeds, a few test casts saw the line clipped and we proceeded to pepper one particular area almost exactly two metres to the right of the marker float with tuna oil flavoured laying pellets.

     

    Once the correct technique for stopping the spod gently was perfected, splashdown stayed within a reasonable area.

    Despite my best efforts, even aiming off provided little difference to where the spod deposited carp snacks.

     

    We figured that it was just a reference point and so managed to cast the Mk 1 and 2 boilie into the target areas with little problem

     

    But for four hours.... nothing.

     

    Then the kneaded cheese recipe was dusted off. 1/4 of a slice of processed individually wrapped cheese kneaded through 3 crustless white bread slices.

     

    With some exercise which is sure to develop forearms like popeye, we soon had some boilie sized chunks in our cheesy smelling hands.

     

    The first cast proved that a boilie stop wouldn't work so much as retard the little dough ball slightly on it's way to choke a seagull on the bank on the other side.

     

    A quick look around proved that the common everyday garden variety small bit of stick worked superbly to keep the ball on the hair rig.

     

    So we switched to this bait and within half an hour, had a specimen reaching not quite 5 kg in the net.

     

    I managed to have two hook links let go on me, unravelling through the swivels on both rods. Much to my astonishment. One fish we almost had in sight before it turned and just accelerated away like a Monster truck towing Kylie Minogue through a six inch pool of rice pudding.

     

    All on bread. Eventually I banked a little fellow that fought far over his weight limit of just over 2kg and then found a big silvery shimmer grazing contentedly in the torch light.... with no rod, of course.

     

    It wasn't a bad day out. Might do it again tomorrow.

     

    We did discover that taking a compass heading on the marker float can be quite a good idea.....

  3. There are a few places around the lake that look alright with the right light. I can't be bothered taking my proper camera on fishing trips, so the little Kodak Zi8, which is as cheap as dirt and can record 10 hours of HD video with a 32 gig card, gets used to see what can be achieved as a still camera.

     

    I never expected it to be anything special as a stills camera but I think that Kodak have done an outstanding job for 170 dollars.

     

    It's not my Nikon D200 with 80-200 f2.8, but it's considerably easier to put in my pocket. And with a quick solder job and a 4 dollar cigarette lighter USB charger, you can run it for your entire days fishing.

     

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  4. In the initial time period of discovering boilies and researching their recipes, I have seen an awful lot of variation.

    It appears that in between the 50/50 mix of 8oz soya flour and 8oz semolina with four eggs and the other end of the spectrum with soya flour, semolina, scopex, truffles, fairyfloss and razorwire smeared with peanut butter and napalm, almost anything seems to be palatable to our finny little fishy friend.

     

    So it may be reasonable to suspect that far from being mindless picky beings, that they have some range of personal preference.

     

    So I elected to start with the basics and see what happens from there.

     

    Thanks to Nail's link, I had a very simple explanation of the basic mixes which almost everything that I have come across assembles neatly around it. Never ignore the worth of foundation knowledge.

     

    It also pays to keep a few important points in mind with what you read as well. Particularly pay attention to anything that starts with "Don't" or "Avoid".

    Something like "Avoid making a sticky mixture" is worth noting. Being aware of what ingredient actually makes a mixture sticky would have made the first piece of advice slightly more useful

     

    So after despairing at the limited range of soya flour supplies in the Canberra region, which seems to be confined to health food shops and their hefty profit margins, I ascertained that semolina seems to be almost everywhere.

     

    Much to my surprise, the "Natura' Woolworths home brand was even cheaper than the Home brand on the other side of the aisle, so nothing in a red and white wrapper for my little carp gnocci.

     

    A note about the soya flour. Being from a health food shop and organic, there is no pesticide used in the process. This can occasionally allow some uninvited insect protein to propagate within the heat sealed plastic container.

     

    If you can find evidence of this before you buy your soya flour, pointing it out to the shop keeper can help you to convince them to offer it at a significant discount.

     

    Otherwise, they'd have to throw it out...

     

    So after collecting the basics of the first mix at http://www.fishforcarp.com/html/make%20boilies.htm I decided that they would serve as a method to experiment with. I've had some success with bread and various curry, chilli, aniseed and strawberry jam concoctions, so decided to go with some curry and something sweet.

     

    Here's where I made my fatal decision based on "not knowing what would make a mix sticky". Admittedly previous experiments with fairy floss and my fathers hair at the age of 3 should have really given a basic indication.

     

    100 millilitres of water, when heated can dissolve a lot of sugar in it. At least another 50 millilitres once the molecules of sugar have slipped in between the water molecules. Sugar is rather interesting that way.

     

    Regardless, with that mixed in, the mixture started off looking reasonably good.

     

    It's when it exceeded the point at which I could mix it with a fork that the real trouble began.

    The instructions say " You will come to the time when the mix is too stiff to mix with a fork anymore. There's nothing for it now, but to get your hands messy. Slowly add more powder, a bit at a time and kneed it well into the paste with your hands. "

     

    Note that it says "messy".

     

    "Messy" can mean a few things.

    Parts of my house undergoing renovation can be termed "Messy".

    Small boy's bedrooms can be termed "messy".

    Divorces can be "messy".

     

    "Messy" for me as a descriptive term runs out of effectiveness about the time you see your first interaction between a night blind kangaroo and semi trailer demonstrating that it's "100 limited" sign is actually incredibly pessimistic.

     

    Putting my hands into Boilie Experimental mixture #1 didn't make my hands just "messy".

     

    I thought that parts of me had devolved back to an amoeba.

     

    Imagine gluggy white stuff that looked something like the unwanted lovechild of wet cement and clag glue, but smelled of sweet aniseed curry. It was stickier than lesbian jelly wrestlers rubbed down with honey in the middle of summer and harder to get rid of than a neighbour who sells Amway.

     

    Of course, you never discover this sort of thing when you've only got ONE hand covered in the stuff.

    And you'll only ever do this sort of thing when you're the only person at home.

     

    This accomplishes two things. It ensures that photos of you with John Merrick's hands will never appear on facebook, but lets you consider if you'll be permanently bonded to the tap because you've got to try and get out of this mess and have it cleaned up before anyone comes home to find the evidence.

     

    So I decided to try and turn the tap on, in the hope that water might help dissolve the Frankenstein quicksand that was masquerading as boilie mix.

     

    Then I had to wonder if it would clog the drain somewhere. The Plumbing Doctor has already visited once in the last six months. He performed a walletectomy. The credit card has healed but the memories still remain.

     

    Screw it. Caustic soda will eventually eat through the boilie mix. Even if it reassembles in the pipe like that poly metal alloy T2000 in the second Terminator movie.

     

    Hey. Caustic soda is one thing that I haven't seen turn up in a boilie recipe so far...

     

    Luckily, water had the desired effect.

    Holy water probably would have even been more effective.

    Slowly but surely, I got rid of the world newest highly adhesive boilie mix off my hands and down the sink. I also managed to deposit it on the tap handle, sink edges, dish cloth, floor, saucepan handle and kettle cord.

     

    Unfortunately, it took some time before I discovered the dish cloth was encrusted with frankenboilie mix.

    I just took it outside and put it to death with the blowtorch in the driveway.

    It was the kindest thing to do.

     

    So after chipping the remains of the evidence off the kitchen taps, I decided to have another go.

     

    This time however, the carp would have only savoury boilies. A standard mix with curry and aniseed flavour proved the basic mix was good, if not a little dry.

     

    Trying to guess the volumetric quantity required to make a 14mm round boilie requires some experimentation. But I can recommend that a process of cutting an even sized cylinder off a sausage the size of an AA battery diameter makes rolling a ball a hell of a lot easier than trying to start with a 2mm thick shaving from a boilie dough bratwurst.

     

    Let me tell you if you haven't already figured it out. Rolling 300 plus round baits with your hands isn't very exciting.

    I rate it only slightly more exciting than finding out that the emergency roll of toilet paper has already been used.....

     

    I'm very much looking for the next lot that will get made with the assistance of the Gardner rolling table and sizer that are on the way from the U.K as I type.

     

    I'll feel much better about lobbing them into the lake when I haven't hand made every single one.

     

    At least I know what to do when I run out of liquid nails again.

  5. Nails, the SPOMB people reckon that they've never sold a spomb directly from their website to Australia. There is one that they gave to a friend in Adelaide and yours is via ebay, so you possibly have one of only two in Oz. (Depending if anyone else got one from their many outlets of course)

     

    The ability to dump almost any consistancy at range really appeals to me as I was keen to distribute some small particulate in the water so as to put the suggestion of food out there, without giving anything substantial to eat.

     

    It's also not going to require so much of a fast crank back either.

  6. That's the problem with so many options on what to put in bait.

     

    The list of additives and flavours is huge, so it's hard to know if you should expect almost anything to work to a certain degree, or if you could test one particular additive above all others.

     

    I sat there looking at the spices and herbs in Woolworths not four days ago wondering the exact same thing. There are so many additives that don't seem to get any press.

     

    Why can't we just attach a laminated menu and wax pencil to a sinker and take orders?

     

    In the end I just made curry boilies with aniseed and vanilla.

    And that's because I couldn't find powdered garlic.

  7. And before you ask, I've masked the location as it is pretty special! And somewhere i was taken by a good mate who developed the spot thru much hard graft and a lot of time!

     

     

    Aha, well you've failed to mask out all the water! So we know for a fact that it was near some!

     

    I've got the drop, chaps. Don't bother looking for Ben's secret spot anywhere where there isn't water.

     

    That will narrow it down somewhat..

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    Good luck on that target mirror mate, you don't get many of those in Oz!!

     

     

    Yes. I caught a small 4 pounder in Lake B-G about two months ago, much to the amazement of a guy from QLD who'd happened to be camped right next to our spot. None of us had ever seen one in the flesh before and I couldn't remember what they were called. So it was a good night all round..

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    Wow you really are an expert on everything, look out Karl Kruszelnicki.

     

     

    And some people know Jack and find others intimidating, but I do actually know Karl. And we don't always agree either.

     

     

    That spomb looks rather interesting. I've been entertaining the thoughts of those Pelagic reels, but I bought a little Melaluka to see what they're like and so now am looking at the SW70B. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Melaluka-SW70-9BB-Deluxe-Xtra-Lrg-Bait-Feeder-Reel_W0QQitemZ400136174550QQcategoryZ36164QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BPSSI%252BSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BUCK%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D120595395540%252B120595395540%26po%3D%26ps%3D63

     

    It has a slightly bigger brother in the SW80, but the 70 has the shallower lip on the spool.

     

    The ridiculous grabs my attention, particularly with the drag mechanism and spare spool included. I've seen a few pictures of these around and finally this one turned up today.

     

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370405385701&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

     

    It looks like it would soak up 200 metres of 40lb braid with few issues at all...

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    Ok if you say so I'm not going to argue... being the expert perhaps you should contact all the spod manufacturers an ask them why they don't come with a sinker.

     

    Personally I wouldn't take a spod or a kayak, as I catch almost all of my fish in close. The kayak was just a suggested alternative that you might like to consider if fishing at extreme distance is important to you, I've seen it done very effectively.

     

    No. I don't say so. Every single object that adopts a stable position in flight without augmented stability has these characteristics. A sinker on the back of a spod trailing a massive drag inducing fishing line won't do anything because it's pretty hard to induce a bending moment with a flexible piece of string.

     

    Next time you use a knitted wrecking bar to pry a nail out, you be sure to let me know.

     

    If a kayak were a cost effective method of distance fishing that I wanted to indulge in, I'd not be asking about long rods and play with spodding, would I?

     

    What's the cost of a kayak and trailer or roof racks these days, compared to a cheap rod, reel, braid and spod? Can you put it all together for 42 dollars?

     

    You seem to be remarkably effective in failing to understand the point of all this.

  11. Since we don't have boilies just yet, (Although the ingredients and other bits and pieces are being assembled today) my fishing buddy and I have been using a modified hair rig.

     

    Any old hook on the bottom of about 15mm long. Bait it up with whatever and then putting the second hook on the line with the knotless rig.

     

    What is important is that the hook have an inwards turned eye. (Towards the point.) I've settled on a Mustad viking or 540 hook in size 10. Available from BCF in Tuggers or Fyshwick.

     

    Once you've tied your bottom hook (where a boilie would normally be threaded and stopped) get your other hook and thread the line from the back of the hook through the eye.

    Slide the hook down so that the bend sits just above the bait hook and the line is along the back of the top hook. Have a look at how the eye of the hook has been closed and then wrap the shank (and line) of the hook about 7-10 turns (going away from the direction of the split in the eye for reliability sake if you're a pedant)

     

    Once you've done your turns (and this is the important bit that makes the rig work extremely well) take your line and thread it back through the eye of the hook FROM BACK TO FRONT. That creates the dogleg which makes the hook turn and catch.

     

    Since utilising this rig, every single fish we've caught since has been on the top hook.

     

    If you can't visualise the tying of it. just watch this youtube demo.

    After they tie the boilie loop, they tie the knotless rig.

     

  12. Well, there you go. Applying oceanic thermocline issues to lakes is a mistake. It would be interesting to see if we have enough water mass and temperature differential here to get those effects. All the info is about much deeper lakes.

    Plus we don't get iced up which creates a thermal barrier to a certain extent.

     

    Which is good. Ice fishing kinda sucks as an idea.

  13. Interestingly enough, after reading Jerome Moisand's articles where he has been videoing carp and watching them for much longer than his videos, he reports that their "being scared away" return times are much shorter than you'd expect. Even returning within a minute if they've been feeding.

    Apparently they remember where the pickings are good

     

    http://carpiopedia.pbworks.com/

     

    He's coming to Australia shortly on holiday. He said that he's visiting Brisbane and Sydney.

    Someone should drop him an email and take him out for a fish while he's here.

     

    Oh. tapping the spool puts the momentary brakes on the spod and dampens the oscillations to a point where the fins (if any) can handle things easily.

     

    It's like popping a small parachute out the back and then letting it go.

     

    Spods have what's known as poor tail volumetric co-efficiency. But who cares? It's feeding fish. Not rocket surgery.

  14. Nothing that can be considered power stations near water outlets in the ACT.

    There was an article in the paper within the last few weeks about anglers targeting small bream that were schooling in the warm outlets of power stations in NSW. The fisheries inspectors were waiting for them..

  15. . I reckon the sinker will put out the balance and stop it flying properly.

     

     

    Nope. It would almost be impossible to get a spod to fly incorrectly with the trailing line providing a huge stability margin. While the CG stays forward of the aerodynamic center, the difference will be insignificant.

     

    (My background is aerodynamics, amongst many other things. )

     

    You'd take a kayak out with you, but don't want to lug an extra rod....

  16. Cold water sitting on top of warm water is a physical impossibility as long as there is gravity.

     

    You'll never find warmer water sinking.

     

    You'll find changes in water layers due to their proximity to energy sources causing the layers to mix and reorganise, but you won't find wamer as you go down.

     

    You'll find non linear changes in temperature with depth and variations, but not negative ones unless you find a thermal plume. And that's an energy source. Outlets from power stations can be interesting places to fish. And illegal in some areas of NSW lately too...

  17. Lake Tuggeranong isn't that deep for the main part. Around Tuggeranong, a convenient way to gauge depth is with how much of the shopping trolley you can see exposed....

     

    Thermoclines confuse sonar as well, which is handy if you're in a sub trying to stay away from the men flying around with expanding bait.

     

    I was thinking of what would happen to the storm water coming into the inlets as it would be of a different temperature to the standing water. I don't know if it would be warmer or colder at this time of the year though. Still, I expect that the carp would act like trout do. Sit in the calm parts and wait for the food to come past. Then just nip out and grab some.

    Like Bears beside a cycle path....

  18. Wow. 140m... We've been discussing making a bait boat, but if I'm going to do it, I want to do it properly with redundant systems as I'm going to have a fair investment in one and we're not taking a recovery boat with us.

     

    One provision if I ever make one will be a 12 volt car windscreen washer motor so that I can piddle a ten foot stream onto on the dragon boaters that get too close.

     

    I've had 300 metres of 100lb braid turn up. I think it's a big much for fishing use but there's 200m of 30lb and 500 of 40lb stuff turning up shortly, so there will be something to suit the bill. I've just been reading about shock leaders and I think that that's a FINE idea.

     

    There is a way of turning the spod around so that it winds in nicely, but I have a sneaking suspicion that when I remove the sinker assist it won't be taking underwater soil samples any more.

     

    Digging trenches will probably disturb the wildlife.

  19. Thanks admacdo. I've often thought of giving Isabella Pond a go (used to live near there) but never have.

     

    When you say:

     

    "at the inlet of Isabella Pond"

     

    Do you mean the inlet into Isabella Pond itself, or from Isabella Pond into Lake Tuggeranong?

     

    thanks,

    Oz.

     

    Damn. I had the point marked with google maps but obviously didn't insert it.

    But terminology should give it away really. One end would be the Inlet, the other would be the outlet....

     

    I've also caught carp on fly steve. But with bead head Tom Jones.

    I've got bread flies but have never used them.

     

    If I bait with real corn, it's really crossing the line.

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