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Not personally but one of our members used to work on the site where the factory is located that the ready mades are produced, Im sure he will have a rough idea even if he doesn't publisize it

Have my eyes gone funny. You've just said 1 of your fav writers is Rod (as is mine he was way ahead of his time) who's primary writings were about Bait and its application. I actually quite like Dave's writing style but thats down to personal choice.

Clearly haven't read Flick of the Tale, Dave actually says he doesn't know much about the make up of bait prefers to let someone else do that side for him as he is usually focused on other parts of his fishing. Chilly has stated that once he's out of the sponsored game he is going to write a book about all the behind the scenes stuff that goes on in the fishing industry. Both are great anglers though

Hmmm theres alot of rumours regarding Korda members going to baitworks due to bait quality issues (not my headline just whats circulating in the industry) Your not far wrong I don't think, and would reflect the listing on the bag. Maybe missing a bit of skimmed milk powder

No but close If your using a bait that depends on its liquid profile, then that part needs to be very attractive. Parma Ham is no longer available Campbells discontinued it but that did slot in the really good flavour band. Who mentioned a good bait needs to be expensive, there are loads of great baits around the £6-7 a kilo mark some even less. How many times its on the BAG!!!!!!!!!!!, they sell in europe therefore to meet regs for selling in the EU they have to list the ingredients. Nothing wrong with using whole egg powder, it sometimes used to aid quick attractor release and breakdown quite a few people use liquid egg. Used a lot by our friends on the continent in there baits.

Wont say which product this is analysis of but its from a lab test on a big bait companies product 25g citric acid50ml Water15ml Boiled Ham10ml Maple5ml E422 (Glycerol) Close enough for me, quantity is based around he amount of liquid tested. And the guy who tested does lab testing for a living, Cereals are bulking agents there is nothing in there nutritional profile a carp can process they simply do not have the requirements to do so, they are used in baits as they are cheap and although not directly bad for carp they just stinky winky it out because there is no gain in there. Nearly every ingredient in use has come from animal/aquatic feeds industry these industries are heavily regulated by DEFRA and any item used in feeds has to have a detailed spec sheet produced detailing exactly what is in that ingredient and the process that's been used to create it. From these sheets you can tell whether an ingredient is useful for a bait or not. CM is that you 😒

You taking your tablets this morning Dez Dont believe Vic stated what his ideal protein level is, I would guess its not above 50% as carp can only utilise around 38% in one passing, its not about protein % any way it about how well the fish can utilise the protein in a given product. No one mentioned halibut pellets Its on the BAG!!!, lab analysis can tell exactly whats in a given product. oh and Vic's lab used to be at Sparsholt College , before calling someone out do your ground work

Ok lets phrase it another way, how much of that £10 per kilo your paying is actually the bait ? , the cost of the mix has to be offset by packaging, marketing, cost of manafacture, supplying consultants. Not much of a margin left. There are better baits developed by better bait brains out there for half the cost. Companies like Essential and ABS have been built by 2 of the best guys in the bait business but I haven't seen B5 at £10 a kilo

So when you were listen you should have been told yeasts are mainly digestion aids well the one in Cell is, the key to the yeast type is in the name.

Hope they don't read the bag ;), bait companies send each others products for lab testing all the time mate, please don't think they don't If it works for you and your confident in it and happy with the price keep going with it Mufty, if you move between several waters on short sessions it could work out well using that sort of bait.

I really dont think it does, bites on my water have slowed right down, its designed attraction (its possible its an investigative trigger that it uses) will only appeal in the short term the base is minimal on the nutritional front but is digestable which might be another reason they keep picking it up, but they will soon work out there not gaining anything from eating it. That time frame though can vary from water type to water type, also how much of it a water is seeing might be a factor as well.

Looks like you didn't get the invite Nige 😂

Not rocket science but possible simple science which makes it effective in the short term as the base is nothing special.

Good job Kev doesn't come on here, he's had comments about his hooks and his baits bet it would have him reaching for the whiskey 😂

😲😲Nige cover your eyes 😂😂