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Posts posted by hutch

  1. 1 minute ago, framey said:

    Who was it who said if you can smell it the flavour is over the top…

    or words to that effect


    He has a point to a degree the flavour market is a very mixed bag these days, in years gone by the rule of thumb was as quoted but some of the flavours on the market do little or nothing and some hold some attractive qualties.  Alkaline flavours seem to be able to be utilised at higher levels than a good acidic based flavour.  JB's flavours are generally very good quality and are highly concentrated so his low levels that he suggests are warranted.


  2. 3 hours ago, Grodslok said:

    So, predigested fishmeal for solubles, and high protein meal for foodstuff? 


    Making a bait is about balance, ings are mainly broken down into non soluble, soluble and semi soluble.  You can usually make a bait between 15-20% soluble, as the water works it way into the boilie all the good stuff from your liquids and soluble ings is push out into the water and that is what will trigger the carp to investigate, the rest come into play when the bait is eaten.  The key is balance if you aim for around 35-40% protien content is a general mark most people work to.

  3. On 01/05/2021 at 22:37, Grodslok said:

    200g fishmeal

    170g krill meal

    200g semolina

    200g maize flour

    100g chickpea flour

    50g krill or liver hydro

    10g salmon oil

    20g banana or tutti frutti powder (MVDE groundbait flavour powder)

    50g robin red.


    So first up work out your liquids and powders seperately, if i am looking at doing a recipe i will work quantities out based on 1 kilo of powdered mix.

    Looking at the above powders 200g fishmeal is good you can go to 300g if you wanted, the Krill maybe to high depending on how good the krill meal is, as Nick alluded to it can make the bait float if to much is added (some shrimp meals can have the same effect), Semo, Chickpea & Maize are all doing the same job pretty much.  There is not much in the way of soluble ingredients in there look at CSCP 90 if your building a fishmeal most common inclusion is around 10% (or 100g), I would want some form of CLO type product in there and possibly some milks (300g Fishmeal and 50g WPC 80 pretty much cover the daily requirements nutritional wise).  Fruit powders tend to be very potent there usual inclusion is around the 5g mark per kg 20g could well be overkill.  50g RR is fine you might adjust depending how red you would like the finished bait (although RR is not what it was try and located some Kingfisher Red will save you some cash).

    Liquids look fine 50ml Hydro and 10ml of Oil .

    Number of eggs can vary on the mix 6-8 Large Eggs normally serves a kilo of bait

    On 05/05/2021 at 11:42, Grodslok said:

    Are fresh ingredients (for example blitzing some shrimp, or fish offal to a fine mush) any use, or will it just cause boilies to roll poorly and/or rot? 

    They work, the problem is if you add to much the mix will be tricky to roll.


    On 05/05/2021 at 11:42, Grodslok said:

    How much of larger particles can one add before they roll poorly? (Seeing some of you adding nijer seeds, ground nuts, etc). 

    Depending on how course your mix is before adding you could get away between 10-20%  


  4. Those swivels look a bit large for hookring swivels,  are you using floss and a fine baiting needle to thread the baits on or are you just pushing them on to the swivel ?

    The baits are designed for use just out of the bag, i dont use sticky baits but if remember correctly there are a touch on the soft side (not a bad thing i prefer a softer bait), but if your mounting on a swivel/bait screw might be worth looking at the accompanying hard hookbaits that match.


  5. On 06/02/2021 at 17:43, Carpmaster said:

    Only reason I was asking is because I’ve often wondered myself if if they are the essential oils the bait companies use when you here of essential oils is all

    You can use EO as long as it is 100% pure, H & B is a good spot to pick them up nomally.

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    I have the following

    1kg Lactalbumin

    2kg Acid Casein

    5kg Lt94

    2kg CPSP90

    5kg CLO

    1kg kelp

    Any advice would be most welcome.

    Something like this would more than likely put some fish on the bank

    350g LT94

    250g CLO

    100g CPSP 90

    100g Acid Caesin

    80g Lactalbumin

    20g Kelp

    Pop down the supermarket and grab a bag of fine semolina and add it at 100g will give you a kilo,  I suggest you mix it up and just try mixing a 1 egg mix first to make sure it binds ok.  

    Just remember to post any fish in the Catch Report thread.

  7. On 05/10/2020 at 11:24, Carpbell_ll said:

    Saying that looks like they are open and selling their bait again


    Looking at the description posted on here its protein profile will come from Pea Protein Isolate (PP and is used in the aquatic industry as a fishmeal replacement) combined with the refined milks which when used in combination (acid & rennet caesin produce a good profile when combined maybe even in conjunction with wpc80),  the yeast willmore than likely be Brocacel (digestion aid) or i know some people that are utilising high Nucleotide Yeast (more solubility and amino profile).  The cheese smell could be a good quality cheese powder (normally blue cheese powder) which was a in the original Grange Mix.

    Hope that helps.



  8. 1 hour ago, elmoputney said:
    1 hour ago, DENNIS said:

    read some old books rather than modern doggy excrement


    I love a read of some the old carp fishing texts, whats your favourite 😀


    51 minutes ago, DENNIS said:

    and you can not only have wet dreams about Elliot and terry tonight, but ALSO big fat Dannyboy!


    46 minutes ago, DENNIS said:

    At least you have carl and alex to watch on youtube so things aren't all that bad!

    Take it your not a fan of the current string of social media stars 🤣

  9. On 28/09/2020 at 22:47, DENNIS said:

    That is a roach magnet approach mate, on some lakes, bigtime

    Not a fan of the baiting pyramid then


    On 29/09/2020 at 23:50, DENNIS said:

    Just use boilies mate, but there are other more old and less fahionable alternatives ; )

    Seeing as the point of the forum is to share knowledge why don't you try enlightening us of some the less fashionable alternatives

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    Limit of 1 pint of maggots per session, winter season only (this was on an 8 acre lake) 

    No zig rigs

    No shelf life boilies

    No pellets (but yet the fishery will grow their own fish on pellets only and feed them into the lake in winter)

    For these ones and this is aplicable to all anglers and all waters so here goes

    1. People over using them can be bad for the fish as proven at Linear a couple of years ago when one lake had to be closed as they believe the condition of the fish was caused by the over use of maggots.

    2. Zigs, as much as i love a zig, on a super busy water it must be like the sharks swimming through the mine field in finding nemo with all those lines up in the water, leading to a large quantity of foal hooked fish and damaged fish.

    3. As much as its published that things have changed with shelfies some companies have invested in better methods of preserving but even with what we are sold by the marketing alot are still ploughing the potassium sorbate route, fish cosuming baits at high levels using this method have resulted in long term poor health and fish deaths (Anglers Mail did a study about 10 years ago the fish that were feed purely on shelf lifes from that era died)

    4. Pure money making scam, the main base of most pellets on the market come from 2 or 3 companies.

    Hope this helps mate

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    white pop ups also but due to the dark liquid I added it came out more natural/washed out look which isn't a bad thing but not what I was after so I guess I'm going to need some dye if I want to get the colours I want but what ones would you recommend??

    Most of the bait industry use Titanium Dioxide for white but bot sure you will get it in a small enough quantity at a price that fits for this situation,  CC Moore and AA Baits both do a non soluble white dye, the latter being cheaper.

    With your second paragraph , what are you wanting as your finished article, a pop up that looks like your free offerings or a bright one ?, also what levels and liquids are you using might help others offer some ideas.

  12. Cork ball pop ups are probably best used to make match the hatch type pop ups where you can use your choosen mix paste to wrap around the cork ball, so the finished pop ups will be the same as the free offerings you are using.

    So if thats the way you like to present your hookbait, then they are probably the best method

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