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james666

shop brought or home made?????

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hey guys

 

i was sitting on the bank the other day thinking about different tackle set ups and rig lengths and how they affect our catches and a question popped into my head.

 

what gives better results, a shop brought hair rig or a home made one?

 

I've just started making my own hair rigs recently since its a lot cheaper and i can make them to suit the size of bait ect, before this i have only ever used shop brought rigs.

 

i have had decent carp on both shop brought and home made but i prefer my own rigs however my dad reckons it makes no difference.

 

what do you guys think?

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If I am going to use a type of rig that I hav'nt used for some time I may buy some ready tied versions, that way you hav'nt spent loads on a particular coated material, hooks, stiff material etc.

Using ready made rigs is very expensive,when you think that some anglers change their hook length after every fish.In the genral sceme of things I always tie my own, that way you can get them to the exact spe'c that you want and you only have yourself to blame if they let you down...

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OK, let's say that you are fishing a difficult low stock water where a take once in 2-3 months is good going! Would you really trust a rig from a shop or e-bay ect??? And who would you blame if the rig failed on a big fish??? :idea:

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Bit of both, me. I enjoy creating my own rigs and experimenting with the use of differing materials but have no problem at all with using bought-in rigs.

 

The only downside to the use of shop-bought rigs, for me, is that they seldom come with long enough hairs.

 

Ian

 

One of the 'extender stops' (I think that is what they are called) may solve that problem for you Ian?

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I will never use a rig tied by anyone or anything else.

 

In my opinion you cant buy a rig that’s perfectly suited to your fishing unless you change your fishing to suit the shop brought rig- that to me isn’t an option - its pretty lazy.

 

I do however understand that some people need to use shop brought rigs and im not having a dig at those of you that do :)

In some cases shop brought rigs are better due to personal rig tying ability (i.e eye sight, illness, etc).

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I will never use a rig tied by anyone or anything else.

 

In my opinion you cant buy a rig that’s perfectly suited to your fishing unless you change your fishing to suit the shop brought rig- that to me isn’t an option - its pretty lazy.

 

I do however understand that some people need to use shop brought rigs and im not having a dig at those of you that do :)

In some cases shop brought rigs are better due to personal rig tying ability (i.e eye sight, illness, etc).

 

In my case, zander, it's down to old age, failing eyesight and a certain amount of bone-idleness.

 

I agree with what you say in your 1st paragraph, you can't buy a rig that's perfectly suited to your fishing. Which is why I'm occasionaly found tying a few of my own, on the bank. On nice sunny days, usually.

 

Ian

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Bit of both, me. I enjoy creating my own rigs and experimenting with the use of differing materials but have no problem at all with using bought-in rigs.

 

The only downside to the use of shop-bought rigs, for me, is that they seldom come with long enough hairs.

 

Ian

 

One of the 'extender stops' (I think that is what they are called) may solve that problem for you Ian?

 

I saw a video where someone looped a bait band through the loop on the hair, this extended the hair, and also made it easier to put the bait stop in, as the band would extend to allow you to put the stop in, and then tighten on the stop once you removed your bait needle, which i thought was a great idea!!

 

as for the rig's, I've never used a shop brought rig, and never will, IMO fishing is expensive enough as it is, and tying your own rig's is easy enough once you know a few simple knot's, and you can tailor them to suit specific circumstances.

 

it's just another example of how commercialised carp fishing has become, and is also lazy IMO, all though i do understand why some people use them, like said above, poor eyesight, illness etc.

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i love making my own rigs now because like zander said they will never 100% anyway suit my fishing and i like experimenting on different materials and so forth.

 

i also find it far more cheaper when you can spend a few quid on pre made rigs or for just over the price make 40+ rigs, much better value for money but i do agree with whats already been said above about some anglers unable to tie own rigs due to illness. my dad is able to make his own rigs and he taught me almost everything i know about fishing but he is finding it more and more hard to make his own now.

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I bough a few when I started off as I was unsure how to tie the old knotless knot but soon realised how simple it was and that a basic hair rig could made in about 30 seconds to whatever spec I liked. I did buy all manor of rigs for my old man from Sticky Sharp few year ago and I thought they were very well made and did copy a a few that I hadn't seen or used before but 99% of the time I'll always revert back to a basic hair rig and be fully confident in the way it's tied

 

The wife is getting a dab hand at making various rigs too now, had her making and setting up chods the weekend then a semi stiff rig (mono&braid) she's putting me to shame and she's more patient than me lol

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i have been looking over my shop brought rigs today and especially the ones that have landed some of my bigger carp and have started taking ideas from them like putting a piece of shrink tubing on my hook...

 

only time will tell if these experiments will work :wink: im off fishing with the old man tomorrow where i know my rigs work because i have landed my PB there last friday, lets see if these new rigs will work aswell :twisted:

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Always tie my own, various reasons, most of which have already been mentioned, cost , exactly what you want , the fun of learning how to do it, satisfaction of it being YOUR rig that worked. Plus the fact that I enjoy making them ( except when I slip tightening knots an impale myself)

 

And the Missus takes the pee out of me for playing with the lads Lego, so it's a substitute :wink:

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Except when I slip tightening knots an impale myself

Well this weekend just gone the missus reeled in so thought I'd take a look at her rig to examine how much the boilie had started to break down in the fast river flow for the amount of time it had been out thereny way the dozy mare only let the rod drop allowing a 4oz to fall and drive a nice sharp size 6 into my finger

 

And she laughed!! :evil:

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And the Missus takes the pee out of me for playing with the lads Lego, so it's a substitute :wink:

 

You're NEVER to old for Lego! Lego is awesome!!

 

MrDevon, That's the kind of thing my missus would do, and would laugh at too!! i honestly believe women can be more sadistic than men at time's!!

 

If that had happened to me, my missus would have been going for a swim!

Who would be laughing the hardest then? :wink:

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Except when I slip tightening knots an impale myself

Well this weekend just gone the missus reeled in so thought I'd take a look at her rig to examine how much the boilie had started to break down in the fast river flow for the amount of time it had been out thereny way the dozy mare only let the rod drop allowing a 4oz to fall and drive a nice sharp size 6 into my finger

 

And she laughed!! :evil:

I'm sure it was just an "accident" :lol:

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I've only ever used personally tied rigs, by myself or a mate. We used to share rig bins together and we would both tie rigs so that we always had enough as we were changing rigs a'plenty after a number of fish. I trust my knots, but rarely anyone elses, so I wouldn't want to risk a shop bought rig which has been tied by a robot or somebody who doesn't have the personal touch of the lake.

 

In addition to this I "chop and change" the rig materials I use a fair bit. I'm using a combi-rig at the moment, but I other have rigs tied on Jackal, SuperMantis, Merlin, SuperNova, SuperSilk etc and with varying hook patterns and sizes and rig lengths to suit my fishing. Shop boughts simply can't match that list that I have.

 

When I was working in a tackle shop, some customers simply weren't able to tie rigs (one was registered blind), and so I used to tie rigs for them; basic simple rigs, on mono usually, with a knotless knot, although he did want a few on another braided hooklink. I was happy to do so as we were fishing the same lake, and I knew roughly what he wanted as his requirements were similar to mine.

What we used to do was tie the rigs, charge for the swivels, hooks and a spool of the hooklink material (mono being fairly cheap at £3 a 100m spool of mono). This meant that for 10 rigs he was paying around £10, so £1 a rig wasn't too bad, but if it came to a Kryston or Drennan hooklink then the cost was a bit more.

When it came to needing to tie line aligners it got more difficult and time consuming, so I can understand the cost of rigs in the shops now.

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