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This is one of the best threads I've read in ages. It's chuffing hilarious.     Every one of us has taken a mate to a lake & told him good/known spots. "I've caught well from here." or "That g

So if we take it back to the basic format of the app I use MY own knowledge (the little that I have) and MY marker rod and MY eyes and MY ears and then record all of MY info and My features found into

As explained earlier on in the thread by a couple of people, it's not instant results oriented - it's a way of recording information that YOU find. Just like you would if you were to write it down on

I wasn't being specific to any one person androoooo, apologies if it came across that way, it was more a broad spectrum question as it seems a lot of stuff gets slated for no apparent reason other than the poster doesn't like something, back on the swimmapper side of things, I could understand it if people had used it and actually built up an opinion based on first hand experience rather than just an idea/ opinion. I get that everything mentioned is a possibility but it's also possible that the various government agencies could sell every last little bit of data they have on us to hackers from home or abroad and make a pretty penny from it but it's unlikely (I think) same as in my view it's unlikely that a brand as big as fox would take advantage of its customers in a way that would be detrimental to the brand

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This is one of the best threads I've read in ages. It's chuffing hilarious.

 

 

Every one of us has taken a mate to a lake & told him good/known spots. "I've caught well from here." or "That gravel bar, 50 yards out." etc. Yet sharing info with people you know is a bad idea???

 

Whether you use your memory, a notebook or the latest tech to record information. It makes no difference at all. Whatever works for you is all that matters. Knocking another because their method is different to mine would be both elitist & utterly pointless.

 

We all go fishing for our own reasons, we all get something different from it.

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If you download an app, or use a website, it is usual for you to have to click/unclick a check box about your data being given or sold to selected third parties for their use in directing adverts or services to you.

 

If you are anything like me, you forget to check this box, it could quite easily mean that Fox, Korda, Nash or whoever are quite legitimately using your information, your address, e-mail etc without you doing anything or knowing about it.

It is exactly like Google not using your web habits to track you, which is piffle as they do, with the adverts you receive are targeted at you specifically.

Add to that your internet provider will have your location down pat to where you are, as Google after asks 'can Google use your current location?' when you do searches, so these apps may well do the same.

 

When it comes to hacking sites or programs, I am quite sure it is possible. Years ago for my work I wanted to use Quickbooks 2004, but I wasn't too keen on paying £70 I think it was at the time to get the licence key for the CD to load it onto my PC and work properly. It took me 24hours to crack the program, and I am no hacker, so imagine some people who hack sites or programs/apps for fun could break into a computer.

 

I think that the main reason Apple refused to crack the criminals iPhone was because they didn't want to admit that it could be done; when the FBI handed it over to a hacking specialist it was done in less than 24 hours.

It may have been something as simple as breaking a password, and that I have done myself when Windose stopped working with the password that my ex Mrs had set as the Administrator on my daughters laptop. A simple download of a password cracking program, saved onto CD, then put into the laptop sorted it.

Most people who set a password use family, or their own relevant dates of birth, phone numbers and names as part of it!

So to hack into an iPhone is likely not that hard, especially since the police likely had much of that information to hand.

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Well that escalated fast!

 

I made a few comments earlier in this about how unnecessary I felt the app was, but on the grounds that electronic gadgets taking over fishing was a bad idea, and needing an iPad in your hand to know how deep your swim is takes something away from the "return to nature" aspect of the sport that I love, and now we're on about tackle giants going FBI on us to hack our swim depths! A little far fetched!

 

I agree with the idea that soon enough we'll be able to pay for a swim map, mapped by someone recognisable, of some of the popular swims on some of the popular pig ponds, well they're welcome to it! The only think you can't learn from a series of stinking tackle is how to properly feature find, read the water, and know where to put a particular rig. A downloadable swim map pretty much does that for you. What's the betting it'll be as precise as "12 wraps cast at that tree you'll hit a gravel bar, the rig for that spot that such and such caught one-eyed-beast-creature at at 59lb would be a bla bla bla rig made out of this and that. Click to buy the map, the rig, the bait and an impact spod!"

 

It's a good concept but it's NOT FISHING. The guy in the next swim who's putting the work in to learn the craft, and making some mistakes along the way gets to sit there and watch a total noddy hauling cause he's spent a few quid on a swim map. It is not the same as taking some advice from a mate, or a bloke on the bank who points you in the right direction and you take or leave what you're told, or go looking for that gravel bar which you know is out there somewhere. This is paying to be given a way to fish that you haven't had to put any skill or effort into.

 

I won't knock Korda. I like the way they present a lot of their stuff. A lot of focus goes on a safe rig, fish care, and how to go about a variety of fishing situations, including how to use a marker rod, where you may find the fish on a given situation, oh and by the way we sell a bunch of stuff to facilitate these things which you can buy if you want. Of course they push their stuff, it's their job! Shame on Fox if they take this one step further and tell you exactly where to put it on a given swim on a given lake.

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I think you get the message Adam and Nick, say no more and watch what happens, its inevitable.

So what of they do its just a new format on giving info that you can already get off the Internet or magazeines. I'm not personally going to use it but if your not going to use it either how's it going to effect you and your angling. On all these day ticket lakes the spots are all known anyway as soon as you walk in any swim people are saying peg 6 you need to fish at 12 wraps to so and so but if the fish are all in front of peg 19 a rod length off the bank the info is useless. If you dont have the water craft to realise thas the info given is useless then your still going to struggle. It's like maths you can give somebody a calculator but if you need to work out something more complex, a basic knowledge of numbers and a calculator doesn't mean you on a even platform with a maths genious and even if the said maths genious was giving you extra info it would all go over your head, you end up in a mess and your further away from the answer than were when you started. There so many variables involved with carp fishing. It's impossible to break it down into such a basic format as swimmapper in order make people more successfull anglers it just doesn't work like that.

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So if we take it back to the basic format of the app I use MY own knowledge (the little that I have) and MY marker rod and MY eyes and MY ears and then record all of MY info and My features found into the app hey presto I have a permanent visual and written record of MY information that I can go back to when I need/want to. We need to remember that SHARING that info is a choice. I believe the whole point of the app is so that I the angler can Store MY info in an easily accessible and convenient way.

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So if we take it back to the basic format of the app I use MY own knowledge (the little that I have) and MY marker rod and MY eyes and MY ears and then record all of MY info and My features found into the app hey presto I have a permanent visual and written record of MY information that I can go back to when I need/want to. We need to remember that SHARING that info is a choice. I believe the whole point of the app is so that I the angler can Store MY info in an easily accessible and convenient way.

Exactly and if like myself you don't wish to use it don't problem solved.

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this has been a great read.................

 

i like the sound of the app, unfortunately i cant find it on windows apps. i personally would have no problem sharing my fav swims or spots, i do anyway. when did fishing become so competitive? . who cares what the guy in the next swim is doing. if he is having a great session does it really matter if he spent ages crashing a lead around or used an app. what does it matter to your fishing. its like anything in life, do it how you want, is it cheating to get your info the easy way? if you want to then thats up to you, if you dont then dont download the app. fishing is what you make it. some choose to fish oldschool, others with bait boats, fish finders and all the bling. does this effect me in the next swim.....i couldnt give a rats bottom. it makes me laugh somtimes how other anglers will comment or get the hump over anothers fishing, take a chill pill and get on with your own fishing, you will have more fun.

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