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mblessing1989

Am I The Only One Who's Annoyed?

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I haven't been carp fishing for over a year now. Not through being busy, but my admiration for it has taken a drastic decline. But it wouldn't be down to a frustration of blanking (although that trend did carry on for a few months!) but more so to do with the people that carp fishing has attracted.

 

Now I'm not one to say I'm a peer of the realm or a goodie-two-shoes, but every lake I've attended has just too many unsavoury characters. Unsavoury may be the wrong sort of word to use, but being woken in the middle of the night by several chaps who are 'on a social' using cocaine to pull themselves through that all-nighter and getting ever so slightly louder by the hour, naffs me off. And I'm not saying it's everywhere, but that's just an example. It's also the wide-boy, raver clientele it's attracting. It's all I see in the tackle shop nowadays, blokes with more money than sense, probably spending the rent money on Delkims and the like.

 

I may be being unfair and quite vindictive, but I feel I'm being pushed out of the sport somewhat because I don't drop "Munga" or have the most expensive gear, that I'm made to feel inadequate. I purchased SKS Black rods when they first came out and remember being ridiculed by about 5/6 people whilst fishing in France.

 

"Nah mate, wanna chuck those out, they're not very good. Wasted your money there fella!"

"Why on earth would you choose Sonik?!"

 

I even opted for the ATT silent alarms as I don't want to be like these cookie-cut carp anglers, who are just out to out-do each other by their tackle set up.

 

Rant over.

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Well at least you aren't letting them intimidate you.  I have some inexpensive kit that I really like, my first 12' rods, #2.25 Ultimate that don't have a stitch of graphite in them, what a nice soft touch!  Who you fish next to is really up to you though; I don't like fishing next to people who are catching carp for the pot (even though it's legal here), and so I move away from them, or to another venue.  If you're in a club and the coke heads are being rule-breakers rat them out to the owner.  Nobody likes a rat but this is different, and the owners should see that they are bad for business.

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I pride myself in using the cheapest tackle i can get away with, my rods cost £30 each, jrc contacts, my reels are the DL and ST baitrunners,, i have two second hand fox MX bite alarms and one stillwater alarm.

The priceyest tackle i have is the line and bait.

And i will never spend any money on Coke, blokes aged forty plus taking Coke...nah seen too many Coke heads in the flesh to ever bother with that rubbish.

People talk of gate-way drugs, Coke will lead to Heroin use, when you have been hitting hard and can't get to sleep. that's when the H comes out, good luck with that.  

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blokes with more money than sense, probably spending the rent money on Delkims and the like. 

 

Either that or leaving there families eating beans on toast for a month so they can get there latest tackle tart fix  :evil:

 

 

 

I may be being unfair and quite vindictive, but I feel I'm being pushed out of the sport somewhat because I don't drop "Munga" or have the most expensive gear, that I'm made to feel inadequate. I purchased SKS Black rods when they first came out and remember being ridiculed by about 5/6 people whilst fishing in France.

 

"Nah mate, wanna chuck those out, they're not very good. Wasted your money there fella!"

"Why on earth would you choose Sonik?!"

 

I own some Sonik SKS 3 XTR and a Black Spod Spod Rod, happen to think there very good value for money myself  :) not all of us can splash the family savings on the latest and greatest item to hit the market... Oh and expensive doesn't catch you more fish, yes there are fishing situations which require you to use the right tools for the job but most people do not fish in these situations.

 

 

 

I even opted for the ATT silent alarms as I don't want to be like these cookie-cut carp anglers, who are just out to out-do each other by their tackle set up.

 

As recently discussed by the good folks here no bite alarms are perfect they all have issues in some situations.

 

Finally well done for sticking to your guns, I hope you find a water where you can settle and crack on with whats important catching the fish  :)

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im with kev, if your on a water where that sort of thing is common then move onto another lake, anywhere that that sort of thing is common place obviously isnt managed properly anyway. as for branding people as "cookie cut carp anglers" because they have some expensive kit, what a load of [censored], even boarder line jealously imo. your moaning about someone telling you your kit aint up to scratch then in the next sentence digging people out because of what kit they have. practice what you preach and i think you will enjoy your time on the bank more. 

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I knew it would come across like that and I apologise. I'm not knocking the product, what I'm getting at is the new instant carp anglers who are more about price and name more than anything

 

 

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i do get where your coming from. i can assure that anyone trying to make you feel inadequate because they have more expensive kit than you is probably more worried about their fishing than you will ever be.  i remember when i first started out, i had £20 rods and reels, i got some comments from noddys saying my kit wasnt any good, it just made me want to out fish them even more. unless you are regularly fishing at over 100 yards then there wont be much difference in performance from a £50 rod to a £200 rod, yes they may play nicer but the important bit is that they will do the job.  i now rate my kit as mid range price wise, do i think the extra money i spent will mean more fish on the bank.............nope. but its what im confident in, and that mate is what 99% of fishing is about imo. i know a fella using very cheap kit, but he likes it and is confident in it, so who am i to knock it, and to be completely honest he catches more fish than i ever will. 

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And that's the way fishing should be. I feel it's more for the social and an elitist sport now more than anything. For the past year and a half or so I took up barbel and pike fishing and the comments I got from some people I've been fishing with were unbelievable. I took a feeder rod once to a match lake and landed a rather large bream. I was ecstatic. As I had it in the net, a fella (who was carp fishing) came over and goes "Decent size?"

 

Trying not to be boastful, I nodded and said "yeah not bad about 9 pounds"

 

He looked straight at the net and went;

 

"Oh....A Bream? They can be a right nuisance in here!" And preceded to look at me like I was mad for even weighing it.

 

Again, not trying to be boastful but a 9lbs Bream would put a smile on any fishermans face!

 

 

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i am a tackle tarts worse nightmare, even my reel handles refuse to line up :lol:

i use a trio of Fox Warrior S rods that are still doing the job and have been for years, i dont think my reels even have a name they were that cheap but if i am ever lucky enough to get a mid 30 on i know they will step up and do the job.

do i care what the chav in the next peg thinks?? images.angryjpg_zpszvf03vcw.jpg  images.razzjpg_zps8rfnmzkl.jpg

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i am a tackle tarts worse nightmare, even my reel handles refuse to line up :lol:

i use a trio of Fox Warrior S rods that are still doing the job and have been for years, i dont think my reels even have a name they were that cheap but if i am ever lucky enough to get a mid 30 on i know they will step up and do the job.

do i care what the chav in the next peg thinks?? images.angryjpg_zpszvf03vcw.jpg  images.razzjpg_zps8rfnmzkl.jpg

 

young wheeler uses them exact rods, very nice rods, and you see what he done to me the last time we fished together...............................................................them shame.................................

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hahaha!! i knew i liked that kid, just couldnt put my finger on why.

 

but now you say that :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

spend a weekend with his baby face smiling at you while he is hauling and you aint, then tell me you like him. if his dad wasn't  there as well my mums Christmas shop would have been a little cheaper this year  :P

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It does make me laugh people calling other anglers tackle tarts... just because they decided to spend there hard earned on better quality tackle.

It seems OK for anglers to judge people with expensive kit but not cheap kit ..... who cares either way I certainly don't :wink:

Glad I didn't put my recent purchase of a couple of spare specialist rods in ( what's your newest purchase thread )

Probably would give some of you a heart attack :wink::lol:

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steve, i think the OP was about the belittling attitude of some of those that HAVE the expensive tackle against the anglers that dont, its not a class battle but an attitude problem that is pervasive of the whole sport, go to any commie and just walk round, you will see that most of the noise and grouping around one bivvy is done by the lads who are wearing realtree undercrackers and sporting realtree remotes hanging by a Korda or nash lanyard (thats not name bashing but an example) round their necks while swilling beer, yes they invariably have the free spirits on realtree pods or sticks but they also have the attitude that your not a proper jobbie cos you just cant afford the goodies, and strangely enough they all seem to be clones with the bald head, wide girth, builders beltline and vest and shorts (realtree) too :lol:

before anyone says it, i will admit that not all anglers that have these items are like this but it is a sad indication of the sport that quite a few are.

not everyone can afford the cost of a syndie in one lump and so have to be satisfied with the commie scene, and also not everyone is capable of putting their tacklebox before the wife and kids, and also some who can afford the gear but steadfastly refuse to get dragged into the 'look at me' mindset and buy just what suits them (take me for instance).

i have experienced exactly what the op was putting over at the start but me being a lovable kind of guy just laugh at the wanabees.

i would presume that the op would be the type that would turn up at a venue and get on with his own angling never mind what everyone else was doing as long as it didnt impact upon his free time.

as for the word 'jealousy' that is being bandied about, i know it happens on forum's but when was the last time that you heard of someone with missmatched tackle berating or mocking someone with "all the gear" on the bank?

sorry! what was that? never? yep just as i thought, it always goes the other way :wink:

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steve, i think the OP was about the belittling attitude of some of those that HAVE the expensive tackle against the anglers that dont, its not a class battle but an attitude problem that is pervasive of the whole sport, go to any commie and just walk round, you will see that most of the noise and grouping around one bivvy is done by the lads who are wearing realtree undercrackers and sporting realtree remotes hanging by a Korda or nash lanyard (thats not name bashing but an example) round their necks while swilling beer, yes they invariably have the free spirits on realtree pods or sticks but they also have the attitude that your not a proper jobbie cos you just cant afford the goodies, and strangely enough they all seem to be clones with the bald head, wide girth, builders beltline and vest and shorts (realtree) too :lol:

before anyone says it, i will admit that not all anglers that have these items are like this but it is a sad indication of the sport that quite a few are.

not everyone can afford the cost of a syndie in one lump and so have to be satisfied with the commie scene, and also not everyone is capable of putting their tacklebox before the wife and kids, and also some who can afford the gear but steadfastly refuse to get dragged into the 'look at me' mindset and buy just what suits them (take me for instance).

i have experienced exactly what the op was putting over at the start but me being a lovable kind of guy just laugh at the wanabees.

i would presume that the op would be the type that would turn up at a venue and get on with his own angling never mind what everyone else was doing as long as it didnt impact upon his free time.

as for the word 'jealousy' that is being bandied about, i know it happens on forum's but when was the last time that you heard of someone with missmatched tackle berating or mocking someone with "all the gear" on the bank?

sorry! what was that? never? yep just as i thought, it always goes the other way :wink:

 

i agree with some of what you say there cyborx, as it was me that mentioned the jealousy bit i think i should clarify, i was stating that the op said he had been ridiculed on the bank and in the next breathe calling others "cookie cut out carper" because of their choice of gear. ive seen this attitude all to often, and have to disagree that you dont see guys with expensive alarms or rods getting stick coz i have seen it first hand many times. the sly looks at your alarms or rods while your trying to have a chat about the fishing, maybe its not jealousy, maybe people owning certain items are being branded as one and the same and thats what i have experienced, but it does happen. as for me personally, i dont own a single item of over priced branded carp clothing or unnecessary items but i have spent hard earned money on what imo are decent rods, reels alarms ect, i.e my tools for the job at hand. i have to admit i do see the 10 minute carpers show up with spanking new delks, daiwa rods and reels only to see them disappear from the lakes when they realize money cant buy fish on the bank.  but what got my back up originally was the op moaning about people having a go about his gear and then doing the same which promoted the jealousy comment which looking back sounds a little pompous on my behalf.

 

 as for the clones, bald....im getting there, wide girth.....why thank you  :P, builders belt line...........im going for the zumo look, vests and shorts..........................with my moobs vests would attract the wrong sort of attention from lonely horny anglers, and shorts....no my legs are to white. so im halfway there i think  :P  :P  :P

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I can honestly say that I have never ever had anybody approach me on the bank and make any sort of comment about whatever tackle I was packing , snide or otherwise .

 

Must be just lucky I guess . Everywhere I've ever fished has been full of people fishing and (mostly) minding their own .

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I can honestly say that I have never ever had anybody approach me on the bank and make any sort of comment about whatever tackle I was packing , snide or otherwise .

 

Must be just lucky I guess . Everywhere I've ever fished has been full of people fishing and (mostly) minding their own .

 

i wish everybody would mind their own while fishing, would make the whole experience more enjoyable.

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A lot of the instant carpers and the party animals will give it up too, and some will sell their tackle in the bar or the tackle trader, and the odd one will get inspired and over time will become a good angler.

You do see some nice set ups for sale on gumtree, regular too. you can see they just want rid at the best price they can get in a quick sale, a lot of it is top of the range.

I will add, i would like a better set of rods, but the reels are perfect for the waters i fish, saves money on line too, 250 meters of tiger line fits perfect, sod the 1000 meter spools

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