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5 minutes ago, snowmanstevo said:

I’ve bought one .... last wk.... I have limited time and sand pits that go 60ft + deep...... if I’m cheating then I’ll take that on board..... embrace technology..... the only people who hate it are dole cheat skin flints 😉🙄😬😎😎🎣  

That's a little harsh, perhaps there is a deeper meaning to this and you wish to rile someone up, can't say for certain but personally do what you like, use what you like, it's only fishing if it makes you a better angler then well done on youe new purchase 

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7 hours ago, elmoputney said:

That's a little harsh, perhaps there is a deeper meaning to this and you wish to rile someone up, can't say for certain but personally do what you like, use what you like, it's only fishing if it makes you a better angler then well done on youe new purchase 

No not at all and definitely not pointed at anyone as I don’t know members personal details on here. My local has 2 members who are basically dole cheats can’t be bothered to work,happy to pick there giros up big pouch of baccy and a 3 day session through the week while the rest of us mugs have to work 🙄

One of the lads has a car on disability due to a bad back....... and then precedes to haul all his gear up a hill that needs mountaineering skills 🤔 and he’s an avid hater of bait boats,and any type of technology and lords it about members having lack of watercraft. As I said over the Nash drill if people wish to spend there hard earned on fishing bling who are we to complain....... and as a side note,as a northerner I luv a bargain if I can get something for a £ cheaper I will....... but dole cheats do boil my water,so to speak. If someone has took my rant personally or the wrong way then I apologise. 😬  

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I can't afford to spend loads on fishing gear each month as much as I would like too, I have to work overtime just to have spending money, the council tax is crippling, the mortgage is crippling income tax takes any other spare money away, but I don't think living on benefits is easy Street, and unfortunately you have to blame the system for making it exploitable not the individuals who can make it pay unfortunately, the councils are the real crooked ones with there stealth tax cameras and the lack of transparency of where our money is actually going 

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14 minutes ago, elmoputney said:

I can't afford to spend loads on fishing gear each month as much as I would like too, I have to work overtime just to have spending money, the council tax is crippling, the mortgage is crippling income tax takes any other spare money away, but I don't think living on benefits is easy Street, and unfortunately you have to blame the system for making it exploitable not the individuals who can make it pay unfortunately, the councils are the real crooked ones with there stealth tax cameras and the lack of transparency of where our money is actually going 

You see I do blame the individual,they consciously abuse the system. They take the easy way and leave the rest of it to hard working people like us.

Im similar to you,if I work a 39hr wk I break even......just !

A mate of mine has a club foot,basically he’s knackered,struggles to stand for any length of time has to walk with the help of crutches and is in general poor health. Last year his disability car was taken off him,he didn’t meet the criteria and after a prolonged battle has only just got it back. He is the type of person the system is failing not joe bloggs who smokes skunk all day and is happy to get his hand outs.

Its never been easier to earn a living nowadays than since the 60,s there is loads of work out there for people who can be bothered,but why should they when they can milk the tax payer. 

As I said before it really grates me if we all had there attitude the wheels of industry would stop.

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33 minutes ago, snowmanstevo said:

You see I do blame the individual,they consciously abuse the system. They take the easy way and leave the rest of it to hard working people like us.

Im similar to you,if I work a 39hr wk I break even......just !

A mate of mine has a club foot,basically he’s knackered,struggles to stand for any length of time has to walk with the help of crutches and is in general poor health. Last year his disability car was taken off him,he didn’t meet the criteria and after a prolonged battle has only just got it back. He is the type of person the system is failing not joe bloggs who smokes skunk all day and is happy to get his hand outs.

Its never been easier to earn a living nowadays than since the 60,s there is loads of work out there for people who can be bothered,but why should they when they can milk the tax payer. 

As I said before it really grates me if we all had there attitude the wheels of industry would stop.

I don't wish to get into an argument, but sadly I am on Universal Credit.

When I was laid off 2years ago I started off taking agency shifts, basically in addition to UC, so I would not have to rely on benefits.

The only way that is financially viable is if I work full time, get 5 full days work a week, if I get a week with no agency work, then my UC is supposed to cover it, however, for what I have earned in a full working week, I am sanctioned (deductions) on the whole months Universal Credit. 

Now we get interesting, where some deductions are hidden. For every £ I earn, I lose 63pence UC, fair enough, but I lose more in tax. I also get taxed on travel, if I get extra 'wages' because I gave someone from the same company a lift, I get that taxed, and deducted from my UC.

Universal Credit is paid monthly, not fortnightly, but monthly, to cover 30 or 31 days, 4 or 5 week months, and in arrears. What I earn in January, is deducted from February's UC. I may have earnt £600 in 2 weeks in January, in February, I get no Universal Credit, and may not have any agency shifts, so end up with no money.

 

Effectively I cannot afford to work, unless I can full time paid employment. I can't afford to take agency work, nor go self-employed. There may be jobs out there, but not many locally in my trades. I can't afford to take a zero hours contract.

 

In terms of what money is paid on Universal Credit, in theory, you receive all your money to cover rent, council tax, etc. After that is paid that leaves me £51.68 a week. (Worked out on an annual basis, to get correct weekly figure).

That £51.68 is supposed to then cover electricity, gas, travel to interview, food etc. I struggle!

 

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18 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

I don't wish to get into an argument, but sadly I am on Universal Credit.

When I was laid off 2years ago I started off taking agency shifts, basically in addition to UC, so I would not have to rely on benefits.

The only way that is financially viable is if I work full time, get 5 full days work a week, if I get a week with no agency work, then my UC is supposed to cover it, however, for what I have earned in a full working week, I am sanctioned (deductions) on the whole months Universal Credit. 

Now we get interesting, where some deductions are hidden. For every £ I earn, I lose 63pence UC, fair enough, but I lose more in tax. I also get taxed on travel, if I get extra 'wages' because I gave someone from the same company a lift, I get that taxed, and deducted from my UC.

Universal Credit is paid monthly, not fortnightly, but monthly, to cover 30 or 31 days, 4 or 5 week months, and in arrears. What I earn in January, is deducted from February's UC. I may have earnt £600 in 2 weeks in January, in February, I get no Universal Credit, and may not have any agency shifts, so end up with no money.

 

Effectively I cannot afford to work, unless I can full time paid employment. I can't afford to take agency work, nor go self-employed. There may be jobs out there, but not many locally in my trades. I can't afford to take a zero hours contract.

 

In terms of what money is paid on Universal Credit, in theory, you receive all your money to cover rent, council tax, etc. After that is paid that leaves me £51.68 a week. (Worked out on an annual basis, to get correct weekly figure).

That £51.68 is supposed to then cover electricity, gas, travel to interview, food etc. I struggle!

 

And I won’t be getting into an argument with you Nick. I see via your Facebook etc that you actively look for work and do work and attend interviews,my gripe is not with people like you,who want to earn a living it’s the dossers who actively AVOID work and think the world owes them a favour and moan about this,that and the other 🙄

I live on a council estate,and it’s rife with them. You can always tell who the doleys are they always put there bin out a day early after a bank holiday....... because every day is a bank holiday in there world.

At some stage in our lives I think we can agree that we’ve all been down on our luck and needed a helping hand and I’m all for that,I spent 6 months on the dole in the mid 80,s when work was hard to come by and if it wasn’t for help from my family I’d of struggled,but there is a group of society who can work but won’t,there happy to live hand to mouth due to lack of effort and ambition,they are the people I have a problem with and I’ve found they are the biggest moaners of the lot !!!!

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4 minutes ago, oscsha said:

Very hard to judge until you've walked in the other persons shoes !

My Dad had MS and would from the outside look fine some days , sometimes the picture is bigger than it 1st seems .

And as stated earlier with reference to my mate I’m all for helping the people in need, I’m a great believer in helping those less fortunate than myself. People like your dad need social care due to his MS as you’ve said he has good and bad days.

But Billy big b ollocks with his 5 kids and x box are the reason why the country’s benefits system is in a mess,not my mate or your dad. These people abuse the system and it’s criminal that people with real problems and disability’s are all tarred with the same brush.

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@salokcinnodrog say you are depressed and can’t work like all the bums do. I feel for you and you are being let down by the system. Mohammed and mustafa land in the uk with their 28 kids and are immediately housed and funded. If anyone should exploit the system and milk it for what it’s worth it should be you. Why should every [censored] straight off a boat or druggies be able to exploit the system but you can’t. 

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14 minutes ago, Dannygooner said:

If anyone should exploit the system and milk it for what it’s worth it should be you.

Absolute rubbish imo. No-one should.

14 minutes ago, Dannygooner said:

Why should every [censored] straight off a boat or druggies be able to exploit the system

In my experience immigrants are the hardest working people in this country. It's the lazy Brits that think they're owed something refusing to work, preferring to sit on their back-side moaning about "these  people taking all our jobs" that are the real problem imo.

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 Its the system that's wrong. Personally I think there should be some from of system  that if you dont pay in you dont get anything out ( unless medical grounds  ofc)  that should stop the full time benefit doses whondont actually want to work. I live here a few and I cant stand them  and if I had my way there would be big reforms and a lot less people would be getting anything. 

Rant over  but that's all I'll say on it. As I dont want our nice forum to because far to potical 

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32 minutes ago, Tree123 said:

 Its the system that's wrong. Personally I think there should be some from of system  that if you dont pay in you dont get anything out ( unless medical grounds  ofc)  that should stop the full time benefit doses whondont actually want to work. I live here a few and I cant stand them  and if I had my way there would be big reforms and a lot less people would be getting anything. 

Rant over  but that's all I'll say on it. As I dont want our nice forum to because far to potical 

Angry typing and spelling checking much 

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56 minutes ago, Dannygooner said:

@salokcinnodrog say you are depressed and can’t work like all the bums do. I feel for you and you are being let down by the system. Mohammed and mustafa land in the uk with their 28 kids and are immediately housed and funded. If anyone should exploit the system and milk it for what it’s worth it should be you. Why should every [censored] straight off a boat or druggies be able to exploit the system but you can’t. 

You know some people are genuinely depressed though,and that doesn't make them a bum, I live with depression and anxiety day in day out yes I still work but I have had to learn to manage it, some days I just dont want to get up knowing that another anxiety attack will happen, again there are people who exploit this but it isnt everyone and I wouldn't wish depression in my worst enemy it really takes it out of you 

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@yonny you must live in a nice part of the world. Cause i can assure you that statement does not apply where I live. I didn’t make the statement to debate it anyhow. The whole immigration issue is far broader than just jobs. But yes we do make it far too easy for all. British or not.

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And btw, only one in six employable Muslim immigrants in this country work. So my statement applies and is correct. It is what it is. I’m just putting it out there. I’d sooner my taxes go toward helping someone like nick than down the local mosque 

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8 minutes ago, Dannygooner said:

And btw, only one in six employable Muslim immigrants in this country work. So my statement applies and is correct. It is what it is. I’m just putting it out there. I’d sooner my taxes go toward helping someone like nick than down the local mosque 

I've not got a clue if this is correct but where are you getting your figures from ? 

BTW not all immigrants are muslim .

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Nothing. But they are a large percentage of immigrants are they not? We are discussing immigrants as a whole so if a large portion of said immigrants are unemployed that’s a large percentage of the total immigrant population 😒. Yougov had an article as did ipsos and a few other independent researches. It’s very easy to find. Though yougov concluded that the Muslim population suffer racism , hence they can’t get work. Again , 😒

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Btw, before you all get on your hug a Muslim pro immigration bandwagon. I am pro immigration. Vetted immigration. The point of my comments is that our resources are far too stretched due to intrinsically poor immigration policies. Hence a genuine cases like above get such feeble means to get by and have to take benefits over work. Where is the sanity in this. Previous governments have put this country in a mess. Big change is needed. We should be able to suitably look after our own and finding work should not be as hard for some 

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2 minutes ago, oscsha said:

'Look after our own' ?? what qualifies as our own ?

Did you really ask that question? If you had to your a moron. Or if your digging for an answer that you could insinuate some racist tendency that isn’t there then you are even more of a moron. Use ya common sense and conclude an answer yourself 🙂👍🏻

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