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I bought one of the very first Deeper sounders as soon as they became available. I have to say it is a miracle of technology and have been very happy with it. Now the GPS does not work and I can only use it in “boat” mode using my phone’s GPS for position.

 

I want to buy a new one but see that now there are a lot of options (with prices to match). I understand the science between different frequencies and I understand the CHIRP technology. However, I cannot find my way past the marketing speak on their web site. It seems to infer that you can use all three frequencies using CHIRP technology. Surely it cannot scan all three frequencies in one pulse? It would make the pulse far too long. So am I right in thinking you have to select which frequency you want to use (100, 240, or 675).

 

If this is the case does the CHIRP technology work on each of these three frequencies? And, for the frequency it works on, what is the range of frequencies in the pulse? This might be listed in the manual under specifications.

 

If anyone has used one of these new versions, it would be interesting to hear if it makes much difference in normal fishing situations.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Carpbell_ll said:

don't know much about sonar, but the guys that use it rate the new chirp as it works in very shallow water where as the non chirp is not as accurate. a guy uses one on the lakes i fish and he does really well on all three waters. 

Thanks for that Carpbell. I noticed the shallow spec in the marketing blurb but I seem to only fish deep water around here. Very interested to hear experience of actual use especially if someone has used new and old versions.

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I think you are quoting the cone angle rather than the frequency Elmo but I understand your comment.

However it is not quite what I was getting at. A CHIRP pulse, instead of sending out a single frequency pulse, sends out a pulse which changes in frequency during the pulse. I used a lot of echo sounders in my working life but I retired before CHIRP technology became available. My query is really to understand the difference between a CHIRP sounding and a single frequency sounding. Over the depths we carp anglers are likely to use does it make much difference? I understand that the CHIRP can be switched on or off. Has anyone with one of these new fangled gizmos tried this and was there a practical difference?

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10 hours ago, framey said:

I’m like Elmo only have the pro plus and that goes over my head lol and it stays in the shed most of the time

I used mine to pretty good effect the other week, I found some fish fizzing around a massive weed bed chucked it on top,away from them a bit slowly dragged it back, found the edge of the weed and a clear spot in 1 cast, plopped a rig and bait out with the 6m baiting pole 5m later this one was hooked, I almost wanted to say boom then 😂

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1 hour ago, elmoputney said:

I used mine to pretty good effect the other week, I found some fish fizzing around a massive weed bed chucked it on top,away from them a bit slowly dragged it back, found the edge of the weed and a clear spot in 1 cast, plopped a rig and bait out with the 6m baiting pole 5m later this one was hooked, I almost wanted to say boom then 😂

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it was definitely a boom moment 

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I would also like to add i don't really understand mine that well sometimes i mess about with the settings a little, usually use the narrow beam sensitivity set about 80% or so, then I just chuck it out and usually all I find is loads of weed, then If I find a clear or clearish spot just feel for a drop and hope for the best, in an ideal world I know my spots already and don't use it, but it does help you find things you wouldn't find in a month of Sundays,or as above with minimum fuss and disturbance, in many ways a lead is better or still essential but it does help a bit, for example I have fished one swim a lot and I never knew there was a nice raised hump until I chucked the deeper out, for now this is covered in weed but it will become a spot once the weed dies back, to clear it would make the swim look too fish able so im holding off 😂

 

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5 hours ago, Carpbell_ll said:

i have often thought about getting a deeper, i think it would be too much for me i can't even work the how to use videos out, it would end up in the tackle box next to the gemini ARC lead system i have never used. 

It's not that complicated tbh, just set it to the right mode and away you go, then it's just a case of messing about with it to see what you want, 

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On 15/09/2021 at 08:23, elmoputney said:

...  chucked it on top,away from them a bit slowly dragged it back, found the edge of the weed and a clear spot in

Yes, as well as exploring new waters , that is a good way to use it. I am almost persuaded to stick with the Pro +. I was just curious to find out if anyone has shelled out more than £100 for a chirp version and if they found any extra benefits

 

22 hours ago, Carpbell_ll said:

i have often thought about getting a deeper, i think it would be too much for me i can't even work the how to use videos out, it would end up in the tackle box next to the gemini ARC lead system i have never used. 

The Deeper makes a complex technology really easy to use. The Gemini ARC lead system makes a simple technology really complicated.

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2 hours ago, carpepecheur said:

Yes, as well as exploring new waters , that is a good way to use it. I am almost persuaded to stick with the Pro +. I was just curious to find out if anyone has shelled out more than £100 for a chirp version and if they found any extra benefits

 

The Deeper makes a complex technology really easy to use. The Gemini ARC lead system makes a simple technology really complicated.

the leads didn't make past the testing casts, worked ok until you try to control the line mid cast, you have to land it like a spomb or it wont release., be good for a pub chuck on a massive water like the north sea. 

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