krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 my most local tarn which was full of big carp perch roach chub and tench has been totaly wiped out by otters and has now been abandoned! they have drained it and removed the last of the fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirdjones Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Thats a shame it looks really nice and carpy in the top picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I could sneak up there and stock it with some carp and fish it on the sly would be like my own little tarn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666carpcatcher Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Only to be emptied by the otters again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 oh yea forgot bloody otters!!!!!!!! catfish and feed them deadbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666carpcatcher Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 If the lake has been emptied it shouldnt take long for the otters to realise that there is no food available and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 only to return though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666carpcatcher Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Not necessarily, they might return if there food source runs out at the next place they take up residants, but again they still might not return as they might remember that the water and fish are no longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 2 of the waters I fish now have otter fencing around them! it was really intresting to see it pretty much empty though all the depths and features and stuff. wonder if there where many fish left in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666carpcatcher Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Unless the water is totaly emptied and left to dry there will still be some fish in there, no amount of netting can empty a natural lake, commercial pudle yes but a natural lake never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 think I should go and fish it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useph Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 at least you can find out all the features of the lake incase they ever refill it. nice looking place too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake5 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 at least you can find out all the features of the lake incase they ever refill it. nice looking place too.Make your own feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 at least you can find out all the features of the lake incase they ever refill it. nice looking place too.Make your own feature  they are going to re fill it they have just drained it to do some restoration work! what sort of feature would you make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirdjones Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 at least you can find out all the features of the lake incase they ever refill it. nice looking place too.Make your own feature  they are going to re fill it they have just drained it to do some restoration work! what sort of feature would you make?  You could dig a shelf? Maybe take a bag of stone chippings and make your own gravel patch? Dig a deeper hole that only you know about? Just for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 the fish are still in there at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 http://www.sodointernet.co.uk/phpwebsite/slideshow/holehirdss.swf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 at least you can find out all the features of the lake incase they ever refill it. nice looking place too.Make your own feature  they are going to re fill it they have just drained it to do some restoration work! what sort of feature would you make?  You could dig a shelf? Maybe take a bag of stone chippings and make your own gravel patch? Dig a deeper hole that only you know about? Just for starters  its being taken over by cumbria county council yea nothing to loose! I think they will pretty much get everyfish out though myself so would have to stock it with loads of carp? do otters eat small fish like roach and perch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirdjones Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I'm sure if they eat Carp they would have no problems with eating Perch and Roach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Â Ten carp were caught, some just away from double figures but we did capture one fish of 20lbs 4oz and others of 16lb, 15lb and 13lb. All were in excellent condition. All commons bar one , a 15lb mirror. More bream than expected turned up - with a very high average size. Nine in total all in the 8lbs - 9lbs range and again all in good nick. Â Holehird always had a reputation for good perch so we were surprised to find only a few tiddlers. No sign either of decent roach, only the odd little fish. Although notoriously difficult to catch we had expected more tench. nevertheless the ten that we did find were of a decent size - the best going 6lbs and the rest all in the 3 - 4lb bracket. Â Clearly the fishery has been absolutely hammered by predators of all descriptions - otters, mink, cormorants and goosander. Sad as it may be the results confirm our assesment that further investment in the water would be misplaced. At least we can take some consolation that Holehird's loss has been Castle Head's gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake5 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 That carps a peach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal35 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Holehird always had a reputation for good perch so we were surprised to find only a few tiddlers. Â i think this has already been said but you wont get all the fish out of the lake when you net it. i think thia may be more common with perch as a lake near me is absoulutely stuffed with them, most of them big. when it was netted a couple of years ago they got hardly any perch, jsut to find them all swimming around in the very shallow water after they drained it a couple of days later! Â i wonder if it is something to do with and perch and maybe they hide when they know they are being netted? anyone know why this might be as the lake owner is still puzzled, as most of them died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666carpcatcher Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Perch are normally tucked up tight in reed beds or in and around weed, they fast lillte beggers aswell so i guess alot just get missed by staying out the way where the nets dont go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal35 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Perch are normally tucked up tight in reed beds or in and around weed, they fast lillte beggers aswell so i guess alot just get missed by staying out the way where the nets dont go  thats what we always thought was what had happened but one of the guys that helped out with the netting didnt seem to think that could have happened ! i think he didnt know what he was on about ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs1 Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 The amount of weed in the fishery made it difficult to net and in the end most of the fish were caught by electro fishing so surly this would have got the perch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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